What War With Iran Would Look Like?
I had in mind to answer the comments about Sabra and Shatila massacre, but a friend sent this and took me out of mood. I can't read the rest of the article, but even title itself is quite fearsome and worrying.
Well, they want to bomb us toward 'Democracy' and 'Freedom'. They want to eliminate our country and people in order to eliminate 'tyranny'. It's mad? Yes, it is- I know. But who said that noecons are sober?
We will try the most to stop them. Let's say we will be able to achieve it. The opposite would be quite sad and I am afraid that the flames won't just burn us.
posted by Laila @ 11:25 AM
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5 Comments:
It is all war of words and propaganda:
the best you can do to ask ahmadinejad to be a politician (think before speaking, and have a vision, ....).
US will NOT attack Iran, the way they attacked Iraq and Afghanistan. Worst that will happen is Israel nuking the nuke site yes it sounds stupid but they are so afraid and worry about their existence that they will do anything, just look what they recently did to Lebanon
so chill, do not live in any more fear that you already have.
If you ever see an American soldier on your land please look at then as a victim. They are not the rich kid, they are most impoverish children of us who join the army hoping to find a family and/or get access to education (education is not free in the us as you probably know). And on a soft note make sure you have plenty of beer/wine and narcotics that’s what they love oo adame masto misheh ba yek tipa andakht
did you read or here the cnn interview with sean penn,
here is what he said on iraq and iran
"KING: Getting any better? The military now controls itself.
PENN: No. It's -- I think -- to me the situation is pretty simple. I mean, the devastation of the situation is pretty simple. Right now, you know, what these party clowns like Don Rumsfeld could be described as, as far as I'm concerned, except for the enormous damage he's done this country and mankind -- and our president -- and saw that they're getting out there and they're beating this drum, to drown out, as they did in 2002, to drown out other -- in that case it was Enron. Now we have another situation, so this war on terror, boom, boom, boom. Drown out the reality of what's really happening.
I think the American people have a choice. In my idea, it's about an eight to 10-year proposition of Iraqis and Americans and others dying in Iraq. The same amount will be dead of Iraqis, innocent, in 10 years without the Americans as they will with the Americans there. We'll just have more Americans dead.
So shamefully, we have to -- it's what Nixon called peace with honor, to get out of Vietnam.
I think that "cut and run" is something that's meant to make people feel like cowards if they do it. Well, we did make a mistake. It is time to pull our troops out. It's time to rebuild our military because we've got a bad world and they've inflamed terrorism around the world. I think that's very clear to most people.
So what's happened there is a civil war that's going to get worse with us or without us. It's time for us to strengthen ourselves and to try to help them through diplomacy and with money.
KING: But when the president says we should support emerging democracies, because democracy is better for the world, is that -- isn't he right?
PENN: I think he's devastated our democracy. I think you have to start with our democracy. He's made us divided. I have a lot of very good friends who are Republicans, who are right-wing Republicans. And when you are with people and you talk to people as people, and not as Republicans and Democrats, you find that's why his numbers are down. Because people have common sense. They're going to vote in a few months, and they're going to say, well, are we going to be suckers again? Are we going to be suckers to partisan policy and politics and all of that stuff?
By the way, no Democrat that doesn't have a plan to get our troops out of Iraq should be voted for. Not one of them. You know, there's got to be some courage expressed, and that's what I'm worried about is we're not going to have good choices...."
KING: What would you do about Iran?
PENN: Well, the first thing that people have to know about Iran is that Ahmadinejad ...
KING: You've been there, right?
PENN: I've been to Tehran. Ahmadinejad is -- anyone on the street, it does not take a sophisticated political analyst, you know, it could be an actor from Hollywood -- can go to Iran and find out very quickly that Ahmadinejad is not the leader of Iran. Ahmadinejad is not the leader of Iran anymore than Khatami was the leader of Iran.
One of the issues with the Khatami regime that disappointed Iranians so much was the fact that he wasn't able to legislate any of the freedoms. So why was that? It was because he was in a sense appointed by the Supreme Leader. That is the case with Ahmadinejad as well. There is -- but you have -- but Iran is, of all the countries I've traveled, I mean, including our Western allies, the place where I found people to be most sort of like Americans.
KING: Pro-American, right?
PENN: Well, for the moment.
KING: Yeah.
PENN: We've got to be very careful about that, and understand that, you know, this is an aging set of people who lost a million people in between in the Iran-Iraq War. They are a country still in mourning. That's one fiftieth of their population.
And then you have this dominant number, this majority of young people, who, whether they are devout Muslims or not, are the truest believers in separation of church and state. And that is what allows democracy for those who choose democracy.
I do not aggree with all he says,
however, i have great respect for him to have the courage to stand
here you can read all of it
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0609/17/lkl.01.html
til later
i got to go
I am sending a link for you, i hope you like
http://www.zanatefilms.com/
'Sometimes battered, always on the horizon' I like the photo of Hope
If you know spanish or norwegian the film below the Hope sign "gave up your sandals" is really nice. I will try to translate it soon.
did u see this interview
http://msnbc.msn.com/id/14911603/
Did you read about this
U.S. threatened to bomb Pakistan after 9/11: Musharraf
"The intelligence director told me that (Armitage) said, 'Be prepared to be bombed. Be prepared to go back to the Stone Age,'" Musharraf said. "I think it was a very rude remark."
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