The newest achievement of IDF
A few days back when I posted about bombing Alkhiam concentration camp, I didn't know and couldn't imagine in my wildest dream this would happen. Well, they don't need disturbing witnesses there. But well, that's the history and the world seeing this...... Where IDF is heading really?
posted by Laila @ 12:01 AM
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have you read this:
very interesting website by Prof. Tanya Reinhart
www.dissidentvoice.org
/Articles/reinhartStopIsrael.htm
www.tau.ac.il/~reinhart/
Thanks. I will surf it right now.
I love the Swedes:
"Social Democrats: expel Israeli ambassador
A number of Social Democratic parliamentary candidates in Sweden are calling on the government to expel Israel’s ambassador in Stockholm as a show of protest against the Jewish state’s attacks on Lebanon. But Carin Jämtin, the overseas aid minister, has to do so would be “completely crazy”.
The nine candidates, who are standing for Sweden's parliament, the Riksdag, in the general election to be held on September 17th, accused the government of inaction.
“It is remarkable that no leading Swedish politician, so far, has reacted on the subject,” said Magnus Manhammar, from Blekinge, along with eight other parliamentary candidates in a group press release on Wednesday.
“We refuse to be quiet when thousands of civilians are injured and killed. That is why we demand that the Swedish government expel Israel’s ambassador to Sweden until the military attacks and violence against the Lebanese people is stopped.”
“In Sweden it seems as though all of the politicians on the left have fallen asleep,” said Alaa Idris, a candidate from Örebro.
But Carin Jämtin, deputising for foreign minister Jan Eliasson, dismissed the call to send the Israeli ambassador packing.
“I think that would be a completely crazy measure to take. The right way forward is diplomacy and talks, and I hope that we will be able to continue to talk with the Israeli ambassador in Stockholm,” she said.
The Social Democratic Women’s Association has previously called on the government to recall the Swedish military attaché from Israel, but Jämtin also rejected this demand.
“The most important thing we can demand at the moment is a ceasefire from both parties. In this context our military attaché in Israel has an important role maintaining contact with the Israeli military. He also played an important role, through his contacts with the Israeli military, in evacuating Swedes from Lebanon.”
The Social Democratic Women’s Association also wants the government to avoid any cooperation with Israel on defence equipment procurement, and wants the EU’s trade agreement with the Jewish state to be frozen.
“We feel, as do a large proportion of the Swedish people, a great sense of desparation over developments in the Middle East. This would be a signal that we don’t accept Israel’s violence,” Anne Ludvigsson, deputy chairwoman of the association, told TT yesterday.
The Left and Green Parties are also demanding more decisive action from the government. They want Sweden to push for the United Nations to be given the lead role in shaping peace in the region.
Left Party leader Lars Ohly writes that “the only decent Swedish line” is to work in the EU and the UN to criticise Israeli actions.
the source for above article:
http://www.thelocal.se
/article.php?ID=4429&date=20060726
have you found a way to be able to write hyperlink without distorting the link on blogs?
But really, I think they didn't do it intentionally. They are just shooting up everything that moves. Sick really, if you come to think of it.
Be it a Hezbollah Katjusha launcher or a pick up truck or even an ambulance, it is a target for them.
Allthough, that the UN called them many times and still got hit, is a bit suspicious. What IDF would have to gain from it is beyond me.
Jin,
Thanks for commenting.
But through Annan's explanations (in the press conference in Rome), about why he had used the word 'deliberate', we are sure now that the attack was deliberate: The post was there for many years. It was NOT newly established. Besides, UN people have been calling IDF for at least 10 times the same day warning them about the critical situation and then the post was hit by a laser bomb. How you interprete this? Mistake? Definitely not!
Isreali's intentions? A clear message to the whole world; they don't want any UN there. Ladies and gentlmen let's welcome NATO forces. They are already telling it explicitly.
But where will the NATO forces come from. I do hope not from my country (Slovenia). Germany has allready said no. Turkey maybe, but they will demand a price. If you have read the news lately, Turkey wants to intervene in north Iraq against the Kurds. They will go to Lebanon only if US alows them that.
I think in the end Americans alone will come.
Well, yes, it seem like the attack was deliberate, but I have trouble here understanding how anyone normal would do that? Don't they know what outrage this has caused all over the world? Or don't they care?
I mean, it is horrible. But yeah, I think you are right, they really don't know any limits and are killing peacekeepers to get their point accross.
I think sanctions should be imposed on Israel for such behaviour. Not only for the four peackeepers, but for all those dead civilians. Won't happen though, because everyone proposing that is called antisemitic.
Jin,
I don't know really who will come. But I think they would be found some countries to do that.
And who said Israeli policy takers are 'normal' my friend? Look at Israeli papers; even some are nagging that these attacks just will empower Hizbollah and more people would line behind them after this savage killings. Those in power in Israel don't listen to them. Instead, they are provoking to flame the hatred. Naturally, military mentality looks at the world through the guns.
Yes, sanction should be imposed on this troublesome country. But will the governments do that? I doubt. So, we ordinary people can't sit waiting for them. We can write and speak to others. To read and follow the news more and more and to explain it to others who don't do that. If more people could know what is going on in Lebanon and could touch –even an epsilon of it-, the circumstances could go toward another direction –that surely won't happen without you and I.
I hope you understand Norwegian.
If you do not here it is in English.
If you look at the SV (social left party) of Norway’s website www.sv.no you will see the statement, this was even before all this kaos, it was in support of Palestinians
“Rødgrønne vil boikotte Israel “
However, You should also read the response from Condoleezza Rice!!!!
USA threats after boycott support(Aftenposten Thursday, 12 January 2006)
US Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice threatened Norway with "serious political consequences" after Finance Minister and Socialist Left Party leader Kristin Halvorsen admitted to supporting a boycott of Israeli goods.
Related stories:
The reaction was reportedly given to the Norwegian embassy in Washington DC, and it was made clear that the statements came from the top level of the US State Department, newspaper VG reports.
VG claims that two classified reports promised a "tougher climate" between the USA and Norway if Halvorsen's remarks represented the foreign policy of the new red-green alliance of the Labor, Socialist Left and Center parties.
Norway's Minister of Foreign Affairs, Jonas Gahr Støre, responded immediately with written explanations to both Israel and the USA, clarifying the government's stance, while Halvorsen distanced her party's policy from that of the government's.
http://www.aftenposten.no/english/local/article1196096.ece
I found this on the norwegian papers, the questions are in norwegian, but the answers in English by Israels ambassadør in Norway, Miryam Shomrat
"It is quite clear that Iran is behind the unprovoked attack on Israeli territory that started last Wednesdady. In order to divert world attention from its nuclear weapons program. The day before, after the Iranian negotiator Larijani did not get the results he wished for, he did not return from Brussels to Teheran, but went directly to Damascus. The next morning the unprovoked attack on Israeli territory was carried out by the Hizbullah."
Miryam Shomrat
"Israeli citizens are being attacked by missiles and rockets in the south and in the north without any provocation from Israel. Israel percieves this to be a threat of strategic dimensions to its existence. We do not want to hurt civillians, but the price for attacking Israeli civilians must be very high. Therefore Israels army is targeting the centers of power of the Hamas government and of the Hizbullah, as well as their missile depots and the areas from where the missiles are being launched. While doing this Israel is warning the civillian population ahead of time of intended actions."
Miryam Shomrat
What is the goal?
sent by: Tosh, 18/07 - 2006 kl. 15:00
What is the goal of the Israel Bombing?"
"Once Israel suffered the unprovoked attack on its territory, Israels goals are to free the two kidnapped soldiers and to disable the Hizbullah from again reaching Israeli territory, as well as destroying the terrorist infrastructure that Hizbullah has built in Lebanon. The final aim is for the Lebanese government and army to take full control of Lebanese territory down to the border with Israel in accordance with UN Security Council Resolution 1559."
Hilsen Miryam Shomrat
Unfair criticism?
Innsendt av: Børge, 18/07 - 2006 kl. 15:14
"Fortunatelly, Norway has no experience with terror, and we have therefore little (or no) possibility to understand your situation. Taken this in mind, do you find all the Norwegian criticism of Israel unfair? (I mean, don't you think that Norwegian politicians would have another wiev on fighting terrorism if our own friends and relatives were murdered?)"
Israel is a debating society and a lively democracy. Therefore we are used to criticise and be criticised. I have no problem with criticism which is based on facts and analysis."
Miryam Shomrat
and .....
I wish ahmadinejad would think before speaking and not place Iran in danger by such dangerous people who are waiting for the smallest excuse to attack Iran.
Long Live Iran.
Hvorfor så veike?
Innsendt av: Trond Rasmussen, 17/07 - 2006 kl. 20:26
Hei!
Er du enig i at Iran er den største trusselen mot fred i Midtøsten, og er Israel villig til å handle unilateralt for å hindre at Iran får atomvåpen?"
Iran with its nuclear armaments program and development of balistic missiles poses a threat to world peace and not only to the Middle East. Countries like Saudia or Egypt will not tolerate a hegemonial Iran and may develop nuclear capabilities as well. Since the countries mentioned are not stable democracies, or not a democracy at all, the danger is two fold: nuclearization of the Middle East and the technology getting into the hands of an irresponsible government.
Hilsen Miryam Shomrat
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Overflyginger av Libanesisk territorium
Innsendt av: Terje Breili, 17/07 - 2006 kl. 20:20
Etter at Israel trakk seg ut fra Libanon i 2000 har Israelsk flyvåpen hatt 100-150 overflygninger av Libanesisk territorium med bombing av Palestinske flyktningsleire og Libanesiske sivile mål. Samt overflygninger over Beirut hvor flyene bryter lydmuren og skremmer vettet av folk. Hva venter dere å oppnå med dette?"
Your information is incorrect. There has not been any bombing of Lebanese territory, let alone refugee camps by Israel in the time span that you mentioned.
Hilsen Miryam Shomrat
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Hvor står Norge, ifølge dere?
Innsendt av: Ola Norman, 17/07 - 2006 kl. 20:29
Hvor føler det Israelske folket at Norge står i denne og de andre konfliktene? På Israels side, på muslimenes side (palestinerne), nøytrale eller bryr ingen seg om lille norge?"
Norway and Israel have friendly relations which both sides wish to deepen and broaden. Norway has been more than instrumental in reaching the Oslo agreements and I understand that it would like to continue to in this respect. Israel respects this. In the recent crisis I am not convinced that Norway has dealt Israel a fair treatment. It was too often that the word "condemnation" was used in respect to Israels actions.
Hilsen Miryam Shomrat
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håp om fred
Innsendt av: joachim, 17/07 - 2006 kl. 20:33
jeg lurer på følgende: hvis en Hizbolla/hamas/al axa person lurer seg inn på en restaurant i tel aviv og sprenger seg og mange gjester i luften, så er han en terrorist og et udyr. Dette er jeg fullstendig enig i, men hvis en pilot i den israelske hær fyrer av en hellfire-missil inn i en boligblokk hvor det oppholder seg noen høytstående Hizbolla medlemmer, samt 30-40 sivile menn kvinner og barn. Så er dette en vellykket militæroperasjon hvor desverre sivile liv gikk tapt. Med dette som bakgrunn, har du forståelse for at mange her i norge og i resten av verden ser på Israels "selvforsvar" som like forkastelig som palestinernes selvmordsbombere og rakettangrep? Noen må være den første til å gi seg med udådene,ellers vil dere aldri oppleve fred. All ære til Israel hvis dere klarer det, lykke til."
The Hizbullah have established their headquarters and homes in the south of Beirut. The Hizbullah has targeted indiscrimenately for days the northern part of Israel, including the cities of Nahariya, Carmiel, Tiberias and Haifa, the towns and villages in the area, targeting ca. 1.250.000 Israelis. Only after that did Israel target Hizbullahs stronghold in the south of Beirut, and not before giving ample warning to the residents. I would like to stress that Hizbullah is targeting Israeli civillians indiscriminately, while Israel takes all procautions not to harm innocent civillians. Proof is the normal life led by Beirut citizens in other parts of the city.
Hilsen Miryam Shomrat
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Shalom Miriam!
Innsendt av: Bj., 17/07 - 2006 kl. 20:42
Jeg er så stolt av å se hvordan du svarer norsk presse på spørsmål angående konflikten i grenseområdene Israel og Libanon. Her gjelder det å være bestemt og fokusert på bakgrunnen for denne konflikten. Jeg har et spørsmål til deg Miriam: Hvorfor gjøres det ingenting fra libanesisk side med henhold til Hizbollah? Eller rettere sagt: Er det Hizbollah som styrer Libanon? Ha en fortsatt fin dag."
You are quite right in pointing out that Hizbullah, a terrorist organization, does not represent the government in Lebanon. Although it constitutes a small minority in the Lebanese government. Israel expects the Lebanese government to fulfill the UN resolution 425m which stipulates inter alia that all armed groups and militias should be disbanded, and UN resolution 1559 that calls for the Lebanese government to take authority over the entire area of Lebanon, and take responsibility for that no attacks will be carried out from Lebanese territory into Israel. The Hizbullah have taken the Lebanese population as hostages of their criminal policy.
Hilsen Miryam Shomrat
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Et svakt Libanon
Innsendt av: Aksel, 17/07 - 2006 kl. 20:33
Det er ikke lenge siden Israel trakk seg ut av Libanon. Gjennom de siste 30 årene har Israel kontinuerlig bombet libanesisk infrastruktur.
Hvordan kan man forvente at Libanon skal ha et fungerende maktapparat som kan kontrollere hizbollah når Israel gjennom 30 år har destabilisert styresmaktene i Libanon?
Hvordan kan Israel forvente at dette skal forandre seg etter at Israel nok en gang har lagt Libanon i grus?"
Let's be accurate; some 30 years back both Syria and Yasser Arafat's PLO tried to usurp the political power in Lebanon and in the south of Lebanon respectively. In 2000 Israel withdrew completely from Lebanon in accordance with UN resolution 425. It was only in 2005 that Syria withdrew its army from Lebanon. As to the PLO, they were chased out of Lebanon by Israel in 1982 after constantly attacking Israeli civillians with Katyusha rockets. There are no issues between the people of Lebanon and Israel that cannot be solved. It is countries like Iran and Syria, and terrorist groups like the Hizbullah that destabilize the area and hinder any peace process between Israel and its neighbours.
Hilsen Miryam Shomrat
Dear laila,
after you read my comments above please delete them it is only meant to be for you, not to spread propaganda
thanks
Those friends who leave comments with no names, don't consider how I should recognize who is saying what?
If any friend wants to say something to me and not others, she/he can write to my email.
I wrote the responses from Miryam Shomrat to show you how these people justify their actiins. howevere I hope that you delete them. i did send you an email and you did not respond, perhaps it ended up in your spam box
Keep up the good work. thnx!
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